It was said, on the site where I found it, to be milk delivery by dog cart in Studio City CA, in 1910.
But there were comments debating it, saying it looked more like Europe than Southern California… hard to tell from one building.
I tried to get more info but couldn’t find a lot.
That seems to be an elaborate blonde wig on the girl’s head… whether she’s actually a young girl, or a grown woman in an exaggerated little girl costume, which was done more often than you’d think in early silent movies.
Mary Pickford made a lot of movies that way… but in the 1920s. And that isn’t Mary Pickford.
But it could easily be an actress, so it could be a movie-making area… but not many movies were made in California by 1910. Movies were made in New York and New Jersey, and production was just starting to trickle out west.
The name Studio City didn’t exist yet. In fact, the studio it was named after, the Mack Sennet studio, wasn’t there until the mid or late 1920s.
OTOH, if this was taken in the 20s, I don’t know for sure, but by then, in California, I don’t think you brought out a glass pitcher for the milk man to pour your milk into. Or maybe ever.
So where would that happen?
Could be concrete slab steps, weren’t cast in situ as a one piece stairway as there wouldn’t be gaps at the base between the steps.
The kerbstone look like granite, or a similar stone to me.
And I thought it was hair rollers rather than a wig.
That may not be a wig at all. It may be a type of cover worn over hair curlers to keep dust out while the perm solution set.
There seems to be a tie underneath her chin.
Strange that a Belgian woman would come out of her house in curlers and what must be a housecoat, not a child’s dress, and with her knees exposed.
I’ve known a couple of Belgian American women, strangely enough, years apart, and they didn’t know each other. But neither would have done that even in the 70s.ot 80s.
It’s got to be much more recent than 1910… big curlers like that were not used back then.
I wonder when it became not ok to provide your own open pitcher for your milk delivery.
“Milkmen’s Dogs
Last week, I was showing off my vintage dog postcards, and there were some questions about one of them, a photo of a dog harnessed to a cart. So, I thought it was worth writing a few words about these dogs. That postcard depicted a farmer’s dog delivering milk. These draft dogs were common among Flemish farmers in Belgium, the Netherlands, and Switzerland. They were most often used for transporting milk, carrying milk from distant farms to dairies. Sometimes they were also used to transport other goods, such as bread. Judging by the photo, this type of transport was used in the early 20th century. Interestingly, this practice didn’t catch on in Britain. Similar carts began appearing there in the early 19th century, but they sparked discontent. Furthermore, it was thought that such tired working animals were more likely to contract rabies. In any case, in 1840, the British Parliament banned the use of such carts. In Belgium, they became something of a tourist attraction. They were often photographed and printed on postcards and the like. You can find many photos of such dogs online, so I’ve compiled a nice collection for you. Incidentally, the ancestors of the Bernese Mountain Dog were also used for similar work. They were sometimes called “cheese dogs” because they carried milk to cheese factories. In Switzerland, this was especially useful, as the dogs could more easily navigate mountain paths, and milk was often transported from high-altitude pastures.”
Wow… I just tried to find out how long milk delivery by dog cart continued in Belgium, because this photo is one of many on the site Tigressy linked, but it looks newer than 1910.
I found a page all about dog carts on a site called Historicalphotos.com, which said it became rare, but still happened into the 1930s. Okay… that makes sense.
But then I found, on that same page, this exact photo… with the following caption:
“This shot is circa 1910 and was taken at the intersection of Ventura Blvd and Lankershim Boulevard in what is now Studio City in the valley but back then was called Lankershim (and before that, Laurelwood.) Notice how the milkman is pouring the milk into a pitcher, and not delivering it in bottles.”
The fifth one is missing a letter. Interesting that the way the mind works, I was able to figure it out like those sentences that have the correct letters, but in the wrong place except for the first and last ones.
Well, I got most of them. You’ll have to help me out on a couple of them:
1. GABS
2. MAILFLY (they forgot a L in their haste to declare a gender)
3. ACHE (looks like they tossed in an extraneous B)
4. BOTA
5.
6. GOOGLE (must be how they spell it in a foreign language)
7.
8. SPAM
9. DIRE
10. AISLE (they forgot the E)
11. PANEL
12. EASE (they forgot an E again)
13. HOPS
14. WHIMS (they forgot the H)
15. ANTI R (don’t know what they have against the R)
16. RIP T (we’ll miss him)
17. VARLET
My first off-campus apartment when I was in college, one of my roommates adopted a stray kitten. Like all babies, it was clueless. Our apartment had a huge dining room table. One day, Fluffy had hopped up onto one of the chairs surrounding the table, then decided it wanted to get up onto the table proper. So, rather than attempt what it judged to be too far of a leap, it stood up on its hind legs, reached out with its front feet, and put its paws on the table. It was then faced with figuring out how to get the rest of itself onto the table. So it stepped off the chair with its hind feet and was now suspended in mid-air hanging off the table edge. After a brief, fruitless scramble to hoist itself up, it released its front claws from the tabletop, fell to the floor, and raced off in embarrassment to the far end of the apartment.
A little while later, having contemplated what went wrong, Fluffy returned to the dining room and attempted the same maneuver. Except that this time, once it was caught suspended between chair and table and thinking it had figured out why the previous attempt failed, it first let go of the table with its front paws and instantly fell to the floor. Followed by another mad dash to the far end of the apartment.
I understand diffused light coming through a tiny hole… like between her ponytail and neck… but I thought she only had one hand up, so the space made no sense.
Also, the light around her hair in back kinda looks painted on.
But who knows… since I couldn’t find any descriptions.
Pere Marquette 1225 is an N-1 class 2-8-4 “Berkshire” type steam locomotive, built in October 1941 by the Lima Locomotive Works (LLW) for the Pere Marquette Railway (PM) in Lima, Ohio. No. 1225 is one of two surviving PM 2-8-4 locomotives, the other being 1223, which was on display at the Tri-Cities Historical Society near the ex-Grand Trunk Western (GTW) coaling tower in Grand Haven, Michigan, and both of them have the distinction of being the only surviving Pere Marquette steam locomotives left in preservation. No. 1225 was well known to be the basis for the locomotive used in the 2004 film The Polar Express, earning itself the nickname “The real Polar Express”.
I think I may have tutored that person.
She probably would do that.
She was a friend, so it took me way too long to tell her no more computer lessons.
She once thought she needed to unplug her PC because she heard on the news about a new computer virus.
I reminded her that her computer had no modem. (This was the 90s when not everybody could go online.) She insisted that it could still “catch” the virus through the power cord… and make her sick!
A couple of years later, with a newer computer, she called me for help with her printer.
She thought we had to get off the phone every time she was going to try again to print. I asked why… She said, in an exasperated tone, “well, how can it print if we’re using the wires?”
By the time she could go online, her password for everything was the name of her cat, with no caps… booboo.
I told myself to cut her some slack cos she was old… But my idea of “old” has changed, since I’m older now than she was then (a scary thought).
Wow… I had, or read from the library, several books she illustrated, cos I recognize the pictures, especially Caddie Woodlawn, which I owned when I was in about 2nd grade.
They were old by then, of course… but nobody rushed out every year to buy the latest editions.
Funny, I don’t think I ever thought about who drew the pictures.
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Bunny!
Bunny.
Test.
Looks like a bunny to me.
Yeah! It works!
It’s almost a puzzle to find the dog.
I mean yeah… I guess it’s easy to find the dog, but assembling it is harder.
The instructions must have been in Swedish.
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Firefox.
thanks Susan
What in the world is that thing on that little girl’s head?
You’re welcome!
I love the picture but it’s quite confusing.
It was said, on the site where I found it, to be milk delivery by dog cart in Studio City CA, in 1910.
But there were comments debating it, saying it looked more like Europe than Southern California… hard to tell from one building.
I tried to get more info but couldn’t find a lot.
That seems to be an elaborate blonde wig on the girl’s head… whether she’s actually a young girl, or a grown woman in an exaggerated little girl costume, which was done more often than you’d think in early silent movies.
Mary Pickford made a lot of movies that way… but in the 1920s. And that isn’t Mary Pickford.
But it could easily be an actress, so it could be a movie-making area… but not many movies were made in California by 1910. Movies were made in New York and New Jersey, and production was just starting to trickle out west.
The name Studio City didn’t exist yet. In fact, the studio it was named after, the Mack Sennet studio, wasn’t there until the mid or late 1920s.
OTOH, if this was taken in the 20s, I don’t know for sure, but by then, in California, I don’t think you brought out a glass pitcher for the milk man to pour your milk into. Or maybe ever.
So where would that happen?
Those are some very worn steps for the US in 1910/20’s.
Could be somewhere like Austria/Germany/Belgium, but couldn’t say for certain.
Could be… I was thinking somewhere like Belgium too, but then i can’t explain the blonde wig.
As for worn stairs… They look like cement, not stone… even the curb. In fact the actual steps could be fairly new… just uneven.
Parts of the Eastern US had been settled for 250 years by 1910. But the house construction itself doesn’t look anywhere near that old.
None of it looks much like 20th century California.
Could be concrete slab steps, weren’t cast in situ as a one piece stairway as there wouldn’t be gaps at the base between the steps.
The kerbstone look like granite, or a similar stone to me.
And I thought it was hair rollers rather than a wig.
Yes… I thought the steps were cast elsewhere. Flat pieces that don’t quite fit together.
LOL… Seems like we’re reverse engineering this person’s life and surroundings out of thin air.
That may not be a wig at all. It may be a type of cover worn over hair curlers to keep dust out while the perm solution set.
There seems to be a tie underneath her chin.
You’re right.
Strange that a Belgian woman would come out of her house in curlers and what must be a housecoat, not a child’s dress, and with her knees exposed.
I’ve known a couple of Belgian American women, strangely enough, years apart, and they didn’t know each other. But neither would have done that even in the 70s.ot 80s.
It’s got to be much more recent than 1910… big curlers like that were not used back then.
I wonder when it became not ok to provide your own open pitcher for your milk delivery.
From here (in Russian): https://kavery.livejournal.com/4062870.html?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=yasmartcamera
“Milkmen’s Dogs
Last week, I was showing off my vintage dog postcards, and there were some questions about one of them, a photo of a dog harnessed to a cart. So, I thought it was worth writing a few words about these dogs. That postcard depicted a farmer’s dog delivering milk. These draft dogs were common among Flemish farmers in Belgium, the Netherlands, and Switzerland. They were most often used for transporting milk, carrying milk from distant farms to dairies. Sometimes they were also used to transport other goods, such as bread. Judging by the photo, this type of transport was used in the early 20th century. Interestingly, this practice didn’t catch on in Britain. Similar carts began appearing there in the early 19th century, but they sparked discontent. Furthermore, it was thought that such tired working animals were more likely to contract rabies. In any case, in 1840, the British Parliament banned the use of such carts. In Belgium, they became something of a tourist attraction. They were often photographed and printed on postcards and the like. You can find many photos of such dogs online, so I’ve compiled a nice collection for you. Incidentally, the ancestors of the Bernese Mountain Dog were also used for similar work. They were sometimes called “cheese dogs” because they carried milk to cheese factories. In Switzerland, this was especially useful, as the dogs could more easily navigate mountain paths, and milk was often transported from high-altitude pastures.”
Amazing how far we’ve come in understanding things like rabies. No, you don’t get rabies from working for a living. You just get old from that…
But if the dog is tired and doesn’t see the infected rat and gets bitten, is the thought process I would think.
This picture is actually on that site if you scroll far enough.
Funny that MC I both thought of Belgium.
Maybe it’s the fancy pitcher.
I was looking at the dog, and the milkman’s hat.
Wow… I just tried to find out how long milk delivery by dog cart continued in Belgium, because this photo is one of many on the site Tigressy linked, but it looks newer than 1910.
I found a page all about dog carts on a site called Historicalphotos.com, which said it became rare, but still happened into the 1930s. Okay… that makes sense.
But then I found, on that same page, this exact photo… with the following caption:
“This shot is circa 1910 and was taken at the intersection of Ventura Blvd and Lankershim Boulevard in what is now Studio City in the valley but back then was called Lankershim (and before that, Laurelwood.) Notice how the milkman is pouring the milk into a pitcher, and not delivering it in bottles.”
i still think it’s Belgium, though. 🙂
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I see the green egg. where’s the ham?
I don’t remember…was the ham green too?
Yes.
Yes.
I do not like green eggs and ham. I do not like them, Sam-I-am!
From memory, I hate to admit… and not from early childhood, cos it was written after that.
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“I dreamed I was dancing in porridge ..
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Give him a minute, he’s just grabbing some lunch.
There’s a sign that’s just out of the picture saying, “Free Birdseed”.
With an anvil suspended by a rope attached to a tripwire right above the bowl….
It’ll never work…
Will be funny though!
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The twelfth one has me stumped…
It’s a tough one. 🤔
Yeah, most of us are way past our college days, if we ever had any.
We shouldn’t be expected to pass graduate level exams.
The fifth one is missing a letter. Interesting that the way the mind works, I was able to figure it out like those sentences that have the correct letters, but in the wrong place except for the first and last ones.
Well, I got most of them. You’ll have to help me out on a couple of them:
1. GABS
2. MAILFLY (they forgot a L in their haste to declare a gender)
3. ACHE (looks like they tossed in an extraneous B)
4. BOTA
5.
6. GOOGLE (must be how they spell it in a foreign language)
7.
8. SPAM
9. DIRE
10. AISLE (they forgot the E)
11. PANEL
12. EASE (they forgot an E again)
13. HOPS
14. WHIMS (they forgot the H)
15. ANTI R (don’t know what they have against the R)
16. RIP T (we’ll miss him)
17. VARLET
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My first off-campus apartment when I was in college, one of my roommates adopted a stray kitten. Like all babies, it was clueless. Our apartment had a huge dining room table. One day, Fluffy had hopped up onto one of the chairs surrounding the table, then decided it wanted to get up onto the table proper. So, rather than attempt what it judged to be too far of a leap, it stood up on its hind legs, reached out with its front feet, and put its paws on the table. It was then faced with figuring out how to get the rest of itself onto the table. So it stepped off the chair with its hind feet and was now suspended in mid-air hanging off the table edge. After a brief, fruitless scramble to hoist itself up, it released its front claws from the tabletop, fell to the floor, and raced off in embarrassment to the far end of the apartment.
A little while later, having contemplated what went wrong, Fluffy returned to the dining room and attempted the same maneuver. Except that this time, once it was caught suspended between chair and table and thinking it had figured out why the previous attempt failed, it first let go of the table with its front paws and instantly fell to the floor. Followed by another mad dash to the far end of the apartment.
As heard elsewhere (@ Breaking Cat News)…
“Kittens are exhausting!”
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Wow, nice job.
And very realistic models…. especially the trucks.
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Donna Reed, Dinah Shore and whatsherface in the middle
Of course! Who could ever forget whatserface?
All three had eponymous television shows in the early 60s.
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Can’t help wondering about this one…
Couldn’t find any info, but look at her feet.
And the creepy big hole in her weird hand.
The creepy big hole is from the space between her wrists. The distortion comes from the fact that she is out of focus and the light is diffused.
That’s what I’m thinking.
So you guys see it that she both hands up?
I understand diffused light coming through a tiny hole… like between her ponytail and neck… but I thought she only had one hand up, so the space made no sense.
Also, the light around her hair in back kinda looks painted on.
But who knows… since I couldn’t find any descriptions.
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Are you crowding MoreCats’ territory?
From the Wikipedia page:
Pere Marquette 1225 is an N-1 class 2-8-4 “Berkshire” type steam locomotive, built in October 1941 by the Lima Locomotive Works (LLW) for the Pere Marquette Railway (PM) in Lima, Ohio. No. 1225 is one of two surviving PM 2-8-4 locomotives, the other being 1223, which was on display at the Tri-Cities Historical Society near the ex-Grand Trunk Western (GTW) coaling tower in Grand Haven, Michigan, and both of them have the distinction of being the only surviving Pere Marquette steam locomotives left in preservation. No. 1225 was well known to be the basis for the locomotive used in the 2004 film The Polar Express, earning itself the nickname “The real Polar Express”.
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He looks gangly enough that he could turn into a baseball pitcher when he got a bit older.
Search says…
1938, Boy at General Store, Roseland, Virginia
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I think I may have tutored that person.
She probably would do that.
She was a friend, so it took me way too long to tell her no more computer lessons.
She once thought she needed to unplug her PC because she heard on the news about a new computer virus.
I reminded her that her computer had no modem. (This was the 90s when not everybody could go online.) She insisted that it could still “catch” the virus through the power cord… and make her sick!
A couple of years later, with a newer computer, she called me for help with her printer.
She thought we had to get off the phone every time she was going to try again to print. I asked why… She said, in an exasperated tone, “well, how can it print if we’re using the wires?”
By the time she could go online, her password for everything was the name of her cat, with no caps… booboo.
I told myself to cut her some slack cos she was old… But my idea of “old” has changed, since I’m older now than she was then (a scary thought).
that reminds me of this one
Yup.
When you ran that it reminded me of the same person.
BTW, she’s 97 now… not using her computer cos she’s in a care home, but still the same person.
Another StelBel “Family” production! Miss you, Candi…
And most of the cast and crew!
I miss them all…. the ones who just don’t come around any more… and the ones who can only stop by in spirit.
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Bunny!
(Second) Bunny.
Another good one.
Thanks.
Wow… I had, or read from the library, several books she illustrated, cos I recognize the pictures, especially Caddie Woodlawn, which I owned when I was in about 2nd grade.
They were old by then, of course… but nobody rushed out every year to buy the latest editions.
Funny, I don’t think I ever thought about who drew the pictures.
Photographed at the Disney Studios in Burbank,
Yes. That shirt gave it away.
Thought it probably would 😉
His only singing role?
House Sparrows.
I just love little twitter birds.
Aren’t they X birds now?
Well worth the time.
Again, thanks.