Of the two articles you linked to I’d say the second by by Maggie Van Ostrand, “KATIE ELDER, HER TRUE STORY” is far more likely to have stated the facts accurately. I read it first, then went to Wikipedia and the difference in scholarship between the two is definitely in Maggie Van Ostrand’s favour.
As a side note, the only one of the people mentioned in my “World Book Encyclopedia” is Wyatt Berry Stapp Earp.
In the things I came across last night, Doc Holliday was mentioned in almost everything, including a mention of a 1971 film “Doc” about Doc Holliday and Wyatt Earp, with the part of Katie Elder played by Faye Dunaway. I think that back then in the 19th century, a certain mythology developed about the Old West and not everything was precisely documented, so it becomes more difficult to research now. That’s why I included both articles.
In order to sell more newspapers and dime novels, a lot of exaggeration occurred. Now, it’s a challenge to determine what was factual and what wasn’t.
Published by: WM. COLLINS SONS & CO. LTD.
LONDON – GLASGOW – TORONTO COLLINS
A White Circle Book Toronto I.S.B.N. 0 00 682482 X
PENUCHI
3 cups brown sugar
1 cup milk (whole milk 3.25% milk fat)
2 tablespoons corn syrup
2 tablespoons margarine or butter (use butter)
1 teaspoon vanilla (real not artificial)
1 cup chopped nuts
Measure into heavy saucepan sugar, milk and corn syrup. Cook
stirring constantly to 238° F. on candy thermometer or until a little
mixture dropped in cold water forms a soft ball.
Remove from heat; add margarine or butter; DO NOT STIR.
Let cool till lukewarm. Add vanilla; beat until mixture dropped from
spoon will hold its shape. Add nuts; pour into oiled pan 8″ × 8″ ×
2″. Cool. Cut in squares.Yield: 1 1/4 pounds.
Notes from me:
The DO NOT STIR. is the recipe’s, not mine .
This will take some practice to get right, but remember, it will always be edible on its own or on top of ice cream so it won’t go to waste.
I’d use unsalted peanuts for the nuts, but that’s just me.
As always, your poster today is a ‘hoot’! Very enjoyable! And when you enlarge it you can see all the Bassets after the Puppies! However do you come up with these clever names. What a talent.
Coming up with the names usually isn’t so difficult, although every once in a while, I get stuck. That’s when I put out an SOS to people for assistance.
Saving Private Ryan
I’ve stood in that cemetery above Omaha Beach that is depicted in the scene above – the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial in Colleville-sur-Mer, Normandy, France.
As you look at row upon row of white headstones (9,388 in all), every blade of grass immaculately groomed, you struggle to control your emotions. I did because I didn’t want to dishonor the sacrifices represented there; the unlived lives, the families that never were, the community leaders that never came home to make America a better place.
The sense of gratitude is overwhelming. You thank God for America, and Americans.
The same is true for our Canadian friends. I’ve been to the Bény-sur-Mer Canadian War Cemetery, too , It is not far from Juno Beach. 359 Canadians were killed on D-Day, not counting airmen and sailors.
It is so peaceful and quiet at both cemeteries these days that it is hard to imagine the hell our heroes endured on June 6, 1944.
Well said, Rotifer. I, too, visited those cemeteries a very long time ago while spending my sophomore year in France. I remember quite clearly that I had the same reactions, thoughts and reverence as you describe….they are truly sacred places.
I think that, for many people, this is one of several moments from that film that are indelibly fused with memory. I do not remember this actor’s name, but he is the Private Ryan of the title, some fifty years later, returning to Normandy for the first time. Matt Damon plays the young Private. If this is Damon made up to look so much older, then the makeup artist did a heckuva job. Either that, or the casting director did a heckuva job finding someone who could be Matt Damon + 50, and who could so movingly portray in face, in tone, in posture, and in gait, the anguish that anyone in his situation would feel as he asks “Was it worth it? Have I lived a good enough life?” It’s powerful stuff.
Has Cleo been giving lessons in both her talents?
Remember the scooter animation, the kibble truck and hot dog cart.
I briefly posted the scooter animation as part of this comment, but then I remembered nighthawks’ asking us not to.
If you saw it for the minute or so it was up, it wasn’t your imagination.
[Human movie poster]
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Them boys are all shooting at rabbits while the bad guys come up behind!
Yep! I was thinking the same thing!
[two articles about the ‘real’ Katie Elder]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Nose_Kate
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…
(click on “continue reading” to get to the article)
WOW!
Thanks!
Of the two articles you linked to I’d say the second by by Maggie Van Ostrand, “KATIE ELDER, HER TRUE STORY” is far more likely to have stated the facts accurately. I read it first, then went to Wikipedia and the difference in scholarship between the two is definitely in Maggie Van Ostrand’s favour.
As a side note, the only one of the people mentioned in my “World Book Encyclopedia” is Wyatt Berry Stapp Earp.
In the things I came across last night, Doc Holliday was mentioned in almost everything, including a mention of a 1971 film “Doc” about Doc Holliday and Wyatt Earp, with the part of Katie Elder played by Faye Dunaway. I think that back then in the 19th century, a certain mythology developed about the Old West and not everything was precisely documented, so it becomes more difficult to research now. That’s why I included both articles.
In order to sell more newspapers and dime novels, a lot of exaggeration occurred. Now, it’s a challenge to determine what was factual and what wasn’t.
Her nose isn’t so big!
You’re right! It’s just that her eyes and lips are a tiny bit undersized. 🙂
maybe in profile?
It’s all relative, isn’t it?
That was interesting. What a life! How terrible to be known as Big Nose Kate, though. Thanks for the story.
I agree! She was known by quite a few names, though.
Another case of not knowing the real story of Katie Elder! Thanks, Stel!
Glad you enjoyed it!
We’ll probably never know the real story, it seems.
Part V – Finê
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penuche fudge
mango
That frozen mango treat looks yummy!!!
Good morning Balladeers, ((((Plods))))) and Miss Susan.
Good morning, Puppy Lovers!
If the puppy version is half as good as the JW one……Oscar (Meyer) time
NATIONAL REFRESHMENT DAY – NATIONAL HAMMOCK DAY – NATIONAL MANGO DAY – NATIONAL RAT CATCHER’S DAY – NATIONAL PENUCHE FUDGE DAY
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Love how the picture on the left incorporates both days. A rat catcher in a hammock.
Y’all have a great Thursday! (((((HuGz!)))))
A different spelling, but it’s the same stuff.
From: KATE AITKEN’S COOK BOOK
Published by: WM. COLLINS SONS & CO. LTD.
LONDON – GLASGOW – TORONTO COLLINS
A White Circle Book Toronto I.S.B.N. 0 00 682482 X
PENUCHI
3 cups brown sugar
1 cup milk (whole milk 3.25% milk fat)
2 tablespoons corn syrup
2 tablespoons margarine or butter (use butter)
1 teaspoon vanilla (real not artificial)
1 cup chopped nuts
Measure into heavy saucepan sugar, milk and corn syrup. Cook
stirring constantly to 238° F. on candy thermometer or until a little
mixture dropped in cold water forms a soft ball.
Remove from heat; add margarine or butter; DO NOT STIR.
Let cool till lukewarm. Add vanilla; beat until mixture dropped from
spoon will hold its shape. Add nuts; pour into oiled pan 8″ × 8″ ×
2″. Cool. Cut in squares.Yield: 1 1/4 pounds.
Notes from me:
The DO NOT STIR. is the recipe’s, not mine .
This will take some practice to get right, but remember, it will always be edible on its own or on top of ice cream so it won’t go to waste.
I’d use unsalted peanuts for the nuts, but that’s just me.
As a matter of fact, the puppy version is TWICE as good as the JW one! LOVE the ‘rat catcher’ (or, actually, rat terrier) in the hammock!
Love the poster. My favorite is “Katie Olderdog”. Martha Arfer is pretty good, too.
Thanks!!
As always, your poster today is a ‘hoot’! Very enjoyable! And when you enlarge it you can see all the Bassets after the Puppies! However do you come up with these clever names. What a talent.
Coming up with the names usually isn’t so difficult, although every once in a while, I get stuck. That’s when I put out an SOS to people for assistance.
name that movie—or don’t
I love your ideas! (Too bad I don’t have a clue)
Saving Private Ryan
I’ve stood in that cemetery above Omaha Beach that is depicted in the scene above – the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial in Colleville-sur-Mer, Normandy, France.
As you look at row upon row of white headstones (9,388 in all), every blade of grass immaculately groomed, you struggle to control your emotions. I did because I didn’t want to dishonor the sacrifices represented there; the unlived lives, the families that never were, the community leaders that never came home to make America a better place.
The sense of gratitude is overwhelming. You thank God for America, and Americans.
The same is true for our Canadian friends. I’ve been to the Bény-sur-Mer Canadian War Cemetery, too , It is not far from Juno Beach. 359 Canadians were killed on D-Day, not counting airmen and sailors.
It is so peaceful and quiet at both cemeteries these days that it is hard to imagine the hell our heroes endured on June 6, 1944.
They were so brave. We owe them all so much.
The Canadian cemetery at Bény-sur-Mer in Normandy.
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I immediately knew the answer – a spoiler alert would have been nice.
Thanks for sharing! I’ve always heard of the bravery of these heroes, and now hear how it affects us today. Your words mean a lot to me!
Well said, Rotifer. I, too, visited those cemeteries a very long time ago while spending my sophomore year in France. I remember quite clearly that I had the same reactions, thoughts and reverence as you describe….they are truly sacred places.
Thank you for posting the photos.
If only there were no more wars. Imagine.
I think that, for many people, this is one of several moments from that film that are indelibly fused with memory. I do not remember this actor’s name, but he is the Private Ryan of the title, some fifty years later, returning to Normandy for the first time. Matt Damon plays the young Private. If this is Damon made up to look so much older, then the makeup artist did a heckuva job. Either that, or the casting director did a heckuva job finding someone who could be Matt Damon + 50, and who could so movingly portray in face, in tone, in posture, and in gait, the anguish that anyone in his situation would feel as he asks “Was it worth it? Have I lived a good enough life?” It’s powerful stuff.
I think Claude and Clara should be celebrating.
On this day in 1796, the city of Cleaveland was founded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cleveland
https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Cleveland,_Ohio?rec=687
But Rotifer posted a sign saying “Established 1890.”
Just an oddment.
Has Cleo been giving lessons in both her talents?
Remember the scooter animation, the kibble truck and hot dog cart.
I briefly posted the scooter animation as part of this comment, but then I remembered nighthawks’ asking us not to.
If you saw it for the minute or so it was up, it wasn’t your imagination.
thanks, Alex!
….if they’d allow it, I would be all for you posting it in F Minus’ comment section.
The reason for requesting you all to not post it here is that when I re post it again,
(this will come as a shock, but I have been known to rerun things!) it will be fresher in
folks’ minds if they saw it in the comments section less than a year ago,.
I have another rule for myself , written on my thumb: Do post anything less than 12
months since the last time you posted it and don’t post it more than 3 times.
(I may have violated the last part, a time or two)
Good catch, Alexi.
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