I really enjoyed this movie in the human universe, but I suspect that even in the bassetverse the two stories, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking – Glass and What Alice Found There keep getting mixed together. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a movie which didn’t mix the characters and plot points; sometimes very badly.
But, such is life, and if I simply accept that it’s going to happen, some adaptations, like this one, are really fun to watch. .
My wife has been able to recite the jabberwocky ever since I have known her. I don’t know why. I sent her the two versions presented here tonight, but she has not responded yet.
I don’t know your wife’s age or where she went to high school or college…
But I can tell you, as someone only a wee bit older than you, that many many people know or knew it in my later school days in the midwest.
In high school, in Madison, Wis, a small group of us, including a few from the University, all wannabe Bohemian types, and only a baby parody of the artists and intellectuals that we saw ourselves, recited it to to one another, or in unison, almost every day.
In college, knowing it by heart was, albeit informally, a sine qua non… a necessary key to admission into university dramatic arts circles.
…
How funny, now, to think of our baby pretentiousness.
And about what? Lewis Carroll? LOL
We also recited Shelley and Keats, unaware of the beat poets and modern writers that actual intellectuals were reading in real coffee shops.
Whoa! I never knew this was a thing. I never really paid much attention to it and no one I knew ever recited it. Interesting! I don’t think we even talked about the book or the movie in high school or college. I guess my education is sadly lacking.
I hate when YouTube titles over-extend, so you lose the ends or the edges… often, as on this one, the performer’s names.
But at least it shows his face in the beginning.
You can see that “Be…” is Benedict Cumberbatch, my favorite (most days) Sherlock Holmes… he waxes a bit dramatic for Jabberwocky but not as over-the-top as Johnny Depp, madly chewing the scenery above.
…
I don’t blame Depp for his histrionics any more than Cumberbatch for the solemn music…
the emoting on one and the Wagner on the other were probably chosen by producers and directors… I mean c’mon, we’re talking Tim Burton, in Depp’s case.
…
Both are good enunciators, overlooking Depp’s scowling whisper….
but my award goes to Cumberbatch’s recording almost by default, anyway, because of something probably not even either actor’s choice…
The Mad Hatter, above, only recites about half the poem, and cuts out the entire middle!
I’m amazed that they did that in the film, because of the sheer number of people who know Jabberwocky, or at least some famous bits of it, by heart.
It’s a nonsense word, I know, but Benedict Cumberbatch’s pronunciation of “tulgey” is just wrong to me.
He pronounces it “Tull gey” (hard “g” as in key); I have always pronounced it Tull gee ( soft “g” as in “Gee, whiz”).
I looked it up in my O.E.D., but they haven’t seen fit to enter it yet, so there’s no “official” pronunciation.
Wild Think came out in the summer between my 8th and 9th years in school. We had a lot of fun with it – easy to play, and lots of ways to change the lyrics.
The website at this LINK has a description and picture, and actually, to me, they look and sound like they could be good.
I’m guessing the “secret spread” is a variation of Thousand Island dressing (it’s been my experience that almost all of the fast food chains use one) from the way it looks in the picture.
including the lovely young Mia Woofiscowa (I hope I spelled that right!) as Alice…
who, BTW, in Tim Burthound’s vision… and film… is a fairly grown-up 19-year-old, and
not the schoolgirl of earlier versions.
..
Alice must go back to Wonderland to save the White Queen…
played by Anne Howlaway (who was then best known for another series of films where she played a young princess)…
…..from the machinations of the evil Red Queen, who is unexpectedly played, against type, by Burthounds then mate, and mother of his pups, the sweet faced Helena Basset-Cur-Ter.
…
I see that Stel has, in fact, placed the Red Queen front and center.
Having, no doubt, some sympathy with a fellow(?) evil Queen.
“Before Tim Burton was involved with the project, Anne Hathaway was offered the title role of Alice, but she turned it down because it was too similar to other roles she had previously played. However, she was keen to work with Burton, so was pleased to be cast as the White Queen. She shot all of her scenes in two weeks.”
As I just posted the peanut brittle recipe I use HERE, there’s no point in repeating it.
It’s also meat month, and this is my favourite lamb dish, although I make it using lamb chops.
From: “Woman’s Day Collector’s Cook Book (revised and enlarged)
Published by: Simon and Schuster, New York
SBN: 671-21986-3
BAKED ORANGE LAMB STEAKS
2 lamb steaks, trimmed of excess fat
1 teaspoon salt
2 medium oranges, sliced
2 tablespoons brown sugar
1 tablespoon grated orange rind
1/2 teaspoon ginger
1/4 teaspoon cloves
1 teaspoon dried mint flakes
1/4 cup melted butter
Cut lamb steaks in half and arrange in shallow baking dish.
Sprinkle with salt; top with oranges.
Pour mixture of remaining ingredients over steaks.
Bake in moderate oven (325 °F.) about 40 minutes, basting often.
Notes from me:
This is really, really good (it’s up there with “Rum Ribs”) ! !
I don’t think I’ve ever basted anything, and nothing has gone wrong; ever.
A 9” deep dish, glass, pie plate works just fine for cooking.
Cover the pie plate with tinfoil and crimp the edges. This keeps the moisture in and there’s no need to baste.
I never peel the oranges before slicing, the rinds cook thoroughly and add a contrasting tart taste to the dish.
Leave out the mint leaves (or not) and this works really well for pork chops too.
I’m not found of lamb.
I had it once, and it was very good taste wise. But the waxy mouth feel of the fat turned me off.
Pork and chicken are my favorite land based animal protein.
Perky….. are you getting the snow warnings? it’s supposed to give us 18 inches between 6 p.m. tonight and late on Saturday. i’d say that was a winter alert?
We are only supposed to get 2 inches tonight and then sub-freezing temps for a few days. Please heaters, keep working!!!
I feel for you. Sick of snow!!!! And 18 inches is way too much! At least I don’t have to go any place for a few days. Stay safe and stay warm.
Our ductless heat pump went out the other day. Turns out it has something to do with the electronics and could cost up to half the price of a new system (This model is obsolete) or get a new system with a twelve year guarantee. We have a cold front coming in a few days. Luckily we have a wood stove as a backup and we have plenty of wood.
I lived in Southern California most of my life. Every house we had there had a fireplace that we never used. Now that I live in freezing no man’s land, we do not have a fireplace. Story of my life!!
Even this one is pretty… but the humans were obviously so exhausted just by getting this far, with all the set-up it required,
that they couldn’t include the huge cast Stel employed in her original.
…
The human girl is pretty, to be sure… but she’s no Mia Woofiscowa, is she?
And where’s the Red Queen?
Isn’t she the point?
Yes, I much prefer Stel’s version. It is more fun to look at. Always a favorite of mine!
I really enjoyed this movie in the human universe, but I suspect that even in the bassetverse the two stories, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking – Glass and What Alice Found There keep getting mixed together. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a movie which didn’t mix the characters and plot points; sometimes very badly.
But, such is life, and if I simply accept that it’s going to happen, some adaptations, like this one, are really fun to watch. .
My wife has been able to recite the jabberwocky ever since I have known her. I don’t know why. I sent her the two versions presented here tonight, but she has not responded yet.
I don’t know your wife’s age or where she went to high school or college…
But I can tell you, as someone only a wee bit older than you, that many many people know or knew it in my later school days in the midwest.
In high school, in Madison, Wis, a small group of us, including a few from the University, all wannabe Bohemian types, and only a baby parody of the artists and intellectuals that we saw ourselves, recited it to to one another, or in unison, almost every day.
In college, knowing it by heart was, albeit informally, a sine qua non… a necessary key to admission into university dramatic arts circles.
…
How funny, now, to think of our baby pretentiousness.
And about what? Lewis Carroll? LOL
We also recited Shelley and Keats, unaware of the beat poets and modern writers that actual intellectuals were reading in real coffee shops.
Whoa! I never knew this was a thing. I never really paid much attention to it and no one I knew ever recited it. Interesting! I don’t think we even talked about the book or the movie in high school or college. I guess my education is sadly lacking.
My mom knew it by heart and would occasionally recite it.
I always keep three or four poems on standby for mic checks and stage presense training.
Jabberwocky being one of them.
The trick with this one is to pronounce the nonsense words as if they were common phrases.
They are!
The use of Siegfried’s Funeral Music (Richard Wagner) for background seems a bit over the top.
I hate when YouTube titles over-extend, so you lose the ends or the edges… often, as on this one, the performer’s names.
But at least it shows his face in the beginning.
You can see that “Be…” is Benedict Cumberbatch, my favorite (most days) Sherlock Holmes… he waxes a bit dramatic for Jabberwocky but not as over-the-top as Johnny Depp, madly chewing the scenery above.
…
I don’t blame Depp for his histrionics any more than Cumberbatch for the solemn music…
the emoting on one and the Wagner on the other were probably chosen by producers and directors… I mean c’mon, we’re talking Tim Burton, in Depp’s case.
…
Both are good enunciators, overlooking Depp’s scowling whisper….
but my award goes to Cumberbatch’s recording almost by default, anyway, because of something probably not even either actor’s choice…
The Mad Hatter, above, only recites about half the poem, and cuts out the entire middle!
I’m amazed that they did that in the film, because of the sheer number of people who know Jabberwocky, or at least some famous bits of it, by heart.
It’s a nonsense word, I know, but Benedict Cumberbatch’s pronunciation of “tulgey” is just wrong to me.
He pronounces it “Tull gey” (hard “g” as in key); I have always pronounced it Tull gee ( soft “g” as in “Gee, whiz”).
I looked it up in my O.E.D., but they haven’t seen fit to enter it yet, so there’s no “official” pronunciation.
Love it.
Wow… ’96. I don’t imagine it means 1996.
Picture link to the Wikipedia Article on the Vitascope
Wild Think came out in the summer between my 8th and 9th years in school. We had a lot of fun with it – easy to play, and lots of ways to change the lyrics.
The Original StelBel!
According to my crystal ball, you have a craving for conspicuously cute canines. Were Original Stel and Max related?
I think I can answer that… no, cos Stel has posted that Max was a foundling, adopted at several months old from a shelter in another state.
That would be some tricky, probably magical, genealogy.
I see the resemblance!
What a foofy puppy! Love that face!
So cute!! Fluffy and cuddly!
Didn’t know that Starbucks served canned spinach.
You have to order off the “secret menu” .. like “animal fries” at In ‘N Out, which you’ve probably never heard of, depending on where you live.
You’re not missing anything, cos they’re horrible… something they have in common with canned spinach.
Yuck… how many people, including me and my siblings, grew up thinking we hated spinach, because our introduction to it was from a can?
…
My nephew tried to like it, at 4 or 5, cos he loved Popeye, but he couldn’t.
I was probably 30 before I tasted a fresh spinach salad and realised what I’d missed.
I just had to look up “animal” fries.
The website at this LINK has a description and picture, and actually, to me, they look and sound like they could be good.
I’m guessing the “secret spread” is a variation of Thousand Island dressing (it’s been my experience that almost all of the fast food chains use one) from the way it looks in the picture.
Yeah yeah… some people love them.
You can get your burgers “animal style” as well.
I was being rather facetious, but I find it funny that people are so proud of knowing how to order secret menu items.
I know how but i don’t do it cos I don’t like them.
….
Correct, either is absolutely dripping with their version of thousand island dressing, but they call it “spread”.
A little is OK on a burger, but this stuff is drowning.
I can’t eat that much dressing, even on a salad, and I don’t like dressing on fries, though I like catchup on them.
…..
Ever since I tried animal style one time, I can’t get over it…
I have to order my burgers without any of the spread.
Freshly wilted in a hot skillet of oil or butter and served immediately is the best way to cook spinach.
Is bacon fat considered an oil? 😀
I don’t like it cooked or wilted beyond about half way.
It’s also good cooked for a second or two in an Asian style stir-fry, put in right at the end..
But when I can get them I prefer other Asian greens.
I just want to know what the lady in the window is looking at.
I have already told you how much I like this poster, so I will dive into the extras.
One of Stel’s very best.
Ah, Woodstock! Jefferson Airplane was a huge hit for us sitting in the dirt. Thanks for the memory!
You were there? You are only the 2nd for me. The first was a client.
Yeah, thanks to my 3-year older brother who had a car.
Missed Woodstock, being in California.
Went to Altamont to make up for it.
Pretty much a scary mistake.
@happyhappyhappy @Alexikakos
https://www.gocomics.com/ripleysbelieveitornot/2023/01/25
Charlie Fogwhistle re-posted Pickled Pete’s groaner (dead crows), and the latter explains on his profile https://www.gocomics.com/profile/3203203 what’s going on.
Thank you.
GROAN!
You know this is one of my favorites, Stel!
An AMAZING poster, indeed.. and so beautiful!
…
The live-action Dogsknee movie…
Showing so many of the wonderful cast,
including the lovely young Mia Woofiscowa (I hope I spelled that right!) as Alice…
who, BTW, in Tim Burthound’s vision… and film… is a fairly grown-up 19-year-old, and
not the schoolgirl of earlier versions.
..
Alice must go back to Wonderland to save the White Queen…
played by Anne Howlaway (who was then best known for another series of films where she played a young princess)…
…..from the machinations of the evil Red Queen, who is unexpectedly played, against type, by Burthounds then mate, and mother of his pups, the sweet faced Helena Basset-Cur-Ter.
…
I see that Stel has, in fact, placed the Red Queen front and center.
Having, no doubt, some sympathy with a fellow(?) evil Queen.
Did I say “evil?”
Oh… just…um… kidding, Stel…. I kid.
You know….. I kid.
Wasn’t Anne Howlaway offered the part of Alice?
From IMDb:
“Before Tim Burton was involved with the project, Anne Hathaway was offered the title role of Alice, but she turned it down because it was too similar to other roles she had previously played. However, she was keen to work with Burton, so was pleased to be cast as the White Queen. She shot all of her scenes in two weeks.”
Of course, the bassets may or may not have the same stories, but for some reason they’re often parallel.
As I just posted the peanut brittle recipe I use HERE, there’s no point in repeating it.
It’s also meat month, and this is my favourite lamb dish, although I make it using lamb chops.
From: “Woman’s Day Collector’s Cook Book (revised and enlarged)
Published by: Simon and Schuster, New York
SBN: 671-21986-3
BAKED ORANGE LAMB STEAKS
2 lamb steaks, trimmed of excess fat
1 teaspoon salt
2 medium oranges, sliced
2 tablespoons brown sugar
1 tablespoon grated orange rind
1/2 teaspoon ginger
1/4 teaspoon cloves
1 teaspoon dried mint flakes
1/4 cup melted butter
Cut lamb steaks in half and arrange in shallow baking dish.
Sprinkle with salt; top with oranges.
Pour mixture of remaining ingredients over steaks.
Bake in moderate oven (325 °F.) about 40 minutes, basting often.
Notes from me:
This is really, really good (it’s up there with “Rum Ribs”) ! !
I don’t think I’ve ever basted anything, and nothing has gone wrong; ever.
A 9” deep dish, glass, pie plate works just fine for cooking.
Cover the pie plate with tinfoil and crimp the edges. This keeps the moisture in and there’s no need to baste.
I never peel the oranges before slicing, the rinds cook thoroughly and add a contrasting tart taste to the dish.
Leave out the mint leaves (or not) and this works really well for pork chops too.
I’m not found of lamb.
I had it once, and it was very good taste wise. But the waxy mouth feel of the fat turned me off.
Pork and chicken are my favorite land based animal protein.
RUM RIBS LINK
Try these ! !
As I’ve said many times, “People who don’t come back for “seconds” come back for “thirds”.
one of my favorites!
Lamb is very good grilled, as kebabs for example, for those (like my daughter) who otherwise don’t enjoy it.
I very much enjoyed this movie.
Grown up Alice was a fun idea.
very well done, Stel! love all the characters! ”off with her head”.
Perky….. are you getting the snow warnings? it’s supposed to give us 18 inches between 6 p.m. tonight and late on Saturday. i’d say that was a winter alert?
We are only supposed to get 2 inches tonight and then sub-freezing temps for a few days. Please heaters, keep working!!!
I feel for you. Sick of snow!!!! And 18 inches is way too much! At least I don’t have to go any place for a few days. Stay safe and stay warm.
Our ductless heat pump went out the other day. Turns out it has something to do with the electronics and could cost up to half the price of a new system (This model is obsolete) or get a new system with a twelve year guarantee. We have a cold front coming in a few days. Luckily we have a wood stove as a backup and we have plenty of wood.
I lived in Southern California most of my life. Every house we had there had a fireplace that we never used. Now that I live in freezing no man’s land, we do not have a fireplace. Story of my life!!
WONDERful poster, Stel.
Speaking of wonder, I wonder why it’s taken me so long to realize that Grace had “big 80’s hair” at Woodstock.
Big 80s hair had nothing on big 50s hair.
60’s. No big hair yet in the 50’s, not on purpose, anyhow.
I stand corrected by an authority on the subject.
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