I was taught, way back when, that Norman Rockwell was not an artist, but an “illustrator” … pronounced with a slightly elevated brow and an almost sneering tone.
That guy at the local art show who paints amateur looking watercolors of daisies, with no particular eye for composition… yeah, you can call him an artist… but Rockwell is so commercial.
….
I believed it for years, probably till I discovered Maxfield Parrish, and that people said the same about him… and realized that the two of them could paint circles around most of the art I saw in shows.
Yes, they’re commercial, and their work may have other ends than purely showing Great Truths… but both are also jaw-droppingly masterful.
I’m not saying they’re better that the fine artists of their times…
And I know the above might have been a magazine cover or illustration….
I’m just saying this is incredibly well done, and IMHO you can’t relegate it to some inferior level of art.
Illustration IS art.
You’ve been watching the Pete Beard videos? I would put up any really good line/ink artist against any “fine” art.
Takes the same kind of talent.
I have a beautiful painting of Chuck Yeager with an F-106 in the background. It was one of four proposed Time magazine cover paintings (all basically the same composition) from artists selected by Time for the cover. Despite being commercial, and not being the one chosen, I think it’s fine art.
You got an amazing art piece! I am an trying my hand at art, and I absolutely get enthralled by art done by others. Some I personally don’t “get” and others sing to me. (and I see people walking without stopping at the work that sings to me). The line work, shading, coloring, and love show through in Rockwell, Parrish, and Bernard Burke show through!
Thank you. He was a commercial artist before I was born. By the time I was 5 he’d moved into marketing. Most of his art that I still have is diagrams and illustrations for military manuals.
I was at The National Gallery of Art in Washington DC. We had the Mona Lisa visiting us at the time. I looked at it, and thought hmmm, “oh well, I’ve seen the Mona Lisa. Big Deal.”
I may have forgotten the date…. But I’ll never forget watching it on TV.
Sitting on the floor, in a room with no furniture yet except a tv stand, with my brother, his then girlfriend (later ex-wife), and his best friend (my future ex-husband and best friend), eating popcorn, absolutely mesmerized.
I was hoping you meant it would explain this photo….
I wanted to know if the kid is putting a penny on the track, which is something I did elsewhere, 20 years or so later.
But I didn’t really see any information on that site except the title of the movie, which I already knew…
Here he’s …. um .. I can’t say “on the set of”, because a whole city was the set
for…
Shadow Of A Doubt.
In fact that city happens to be the one I’ve lived in for decades… It’s interesting looking at pictures, or the film itself, spotting buildings that still exist, or noticing ones that don’t.
According to articles by those associated with it, including the cinematographer, and interviews with the director, it was done that way because wartime restrictions on new materials made extensive set building impossible…
So they used an actual house, town square and railroad station, along with scenes in a local bank and telegraph office, and didn’t have to build them.
They did have to contend with getting the proper lighting and camera angles, when actual skies and scenery might not be what they would have chosen… And they couldn’t film late, because lights had to be out by a certain time, to be invisible to enemy planes.
Afterward they were very pleased with the effect, though, and wanted to do more work on location.
The movie
starred
Teresa Wright and Joseph Cotton
, neither visible here, and it’s a great, spooky film noir.
DESCRIPTION
A little girl rides a tricycle in front of the Spot Lunch diner, a former streetcar.
The Spot Lunch was located at 640 Williamson Street and owned by John B. Hanson.
RECORD DETAILS
City:Madison
County:Dane
State:Wisconsin
Published in Wisconsin State Journal July 19, 1949.
Funny, one picture today is taken in the city where I live… And this one is taken in the city where I lived in high school.
I don’t think this place was still there in my high school days… But I did eat in a hamburger place in San Francisco in the 70s that was an old train car… And IIRC, it had appeared in the Maltese Falcon.
Last night it was a blank grey square for me, but now it’s working.
I love Hank’s style!
How does he manage so often to answer questions I didn’t realize I had?
He’s intensely curious, a quality I admire in people, and brings that enthusiasm to his videos…
It’s like he’s incapable of slowing down, not just cos of his own energy, but also trying to cram as much information as humanly possible into a video that’s not too long for us short-attention-span people.
I think he gets that cos he’s one too. Solve one question, race on to the next, before something gets away.
Taken in September 1903, this photograph shows sailors of the Royal Navy leaving their ‘Barrack Hulks’ for their new stone built barracks on land at Queen Street, Portsmouth. About 4,000 men moved from the two old men of war, HMS Duke of Wellington & HMS Marlborough, both massive 131-gun triple decker ships of the line in their heyday.
The Duke of Wellington & Marlborough both became receiving ships in the 1890’s acting as floating barracks for sailors awaiting training or posting. Source: Royal Navy
Did a bit of digging, couldn’t find anything specific about their disposal, but the report from the Hampshire Telegraph (Below) sort of points to their fate.
It seems that there were five Barrack Hulks, Wellington and Marlborough being the largest.
.
Previously, five hulks – old ships no longer in service – provided accommodation for sailors in the dockyard. These were –
HMS Victory Signal School and Receiving ship for Boys First Class.
HMS Duke of Wellington Receiving ship for Stokers, Seamen, Artisan Ratings (ships company), and domestics.
HMS Marlborough Wardroom, and Gun Room officers, and Stokers Second Class.
HMS Hannibal Marines, New Entries, and all other Artisan Entries.
HMS Asia Warrant Officers, Engine Room Artificers, Chief Stokers and Chief Carpenters Mates.
Builders began construction work for the new barracks in October 1899 keeping only elements of the old buildings (Previously a prison). The Admiralty opened the establishment on 30 September 1903, naming it HMS Victory (Renamed in 1974 to HMS Nelson).
The barracks housed 4000 officers and ratings from the old hulks.
On the day of moving the Hampshire Telegraph reported that ‘The Hulks’ were vacated with no ceremony or regret as they were unpleasant and miserable quarters.
Norman Rockwell
I was taught, way back when, that Norman Rockwell was not an artist, but an “illustrator” … pronounced with a slightly elevated brow and an almost sneering tone.
That guy at the local art show who paints amateur looking watercolors of daisies, with no particular eye for composition… yeah, you can call him an artist… but Rockwell is so commercial.
….
I believed it for years, probably till I discovered Maxfield Parrish, and that people said the same about him… and realized that the two of them could paint circles around most of the art I saw in shows.
Yes, they’re commercial, and their work may have other ends than purely showing Great Truths… but both are also jaw-droppingly masterful.
I’m not saying they’re better that the fine artists of their times…
And I know the above might have been a magazine cover or illustration….
I’m just saying this is incredibly well done, and IMHO you can’t relegate it to some inferior level of art.
Guess I don’t have my nose high enough in the air to not completely enjoy Rockwell and Parrish, among many others.
Me too.
Illustration IS art.
You’ve been watching the Pete Beard videos? I would put up any really good line/ink artist against any “fine” art.
Takes the same kind of talent.
Agreed.
I have a beautiful painting of Chuck Yeager with an F-106 in the background. It was one of four proposed Time magazine cover paintings (all basically the same composition) from artists selected by Time for the cover. Despite being commercial, and not being the one chosen, I think it’s fine art.
You got an amazing art piece! I am an trying my hand at art, and I absolutely get enthralled by art done by others. Some I personally don’t “get” and others sing to me. (and I see people walking without stopping at the work that sings to me). The line work, shading, coloring, and love show through in Rockwell, Parrish, and Bernard Burke show through!
It’s a great piece, but I am biased, Bernard is my dad.
Wow… He’s really good!
You’ve said before that your dad was an artist… But I had no expectations.
I’m impressed!
Thank you. He was a commercial artist before I was born. By the time I was 5 he’d moved into marketing. Most of his art that I still have is diagrams and illustrations for military manuals.
I was at The National Gallery of Art in Washington DC. We had the Mona Lisa visiting us at the time. I looked at it, and thought hmmm, “oh well, I’ve seen the Mona Lisa. Big Deal.”
So I guess we’re all missing the significance — today is the 56’th anniversary of the first moon landing.
I may have forgotten the date…. But I’ll never forget watching it on TV.
Sitting on the floor, in a room with no furniture yet except a tv stand, with my brother, his then girlfriend (later ex-wife), and his best friend (my future ex-husband and best friend), eating popcorn, absolutely mesmerized.
,
“Wanna buy a duck?”
That duck, sure.
C’mon, Duckie… Let’s go home.
My Brudder and my favorite joke!
I’m just a baby duck.
,,
Italy giving Sicily the boot.
Don’t worry…. Sicily gets a kick out of it.
I know how this goes …
They’re so intent on fighting, they’re not looking at Lois… and they accidentally knock her off the roof.
Just like that great Cleo animation with all the basset heros.
Alfie spends a penny…
Ahem…
Learn more HERE.
I was hoping you meant it would explain this photo….
I wanted to know if the kid is putting a penny on the track, which is something I did elsewhere, 20 years or so later.
But I didn’t really see any information on that site except the title of the movie, which I already knew…
There were more pictures, though.
Presumably if we watch the movie we’ll know more…
I’ve probably seen it ten times.
You’d think I’d remember about the penny… But I don’t.
The last time was probably in the 20th century… I guess it’s time again, though I don’t know about watching it on a tablet.
This is said to be
Here he’s …. um .. I can’t say “on the set of”, because a whole city was the set
In fact that city happens to be the one I’ve lived in for decades… It’s interesting looking at pictures, or the film itself, spotting buildings that still exist, or noticing ones that don’t.
According to articles by those associated with it, including the cinematographer, and interviews with the director, it was done that way because wartime restrictions on new materials made extensive set building impossible…
So they used an actual house, town square and railroad station, along with scenes in a local bank and telegraph office, and didn’t have to build them.
They did have to contend with getting the proper lighting and camera angles, when actual skies and scenery might not be what they would have chosen… And they couldn’t film late, because lights had to be out by a certain time, to be invisible to enemy planes.
Afterward they were very pleased with the effect, though, and wanted to do more work on location.
The movie
Uh oh….
,,,
I have a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more…
Melted cheese on toast.
I hope the boy and girl flamingos used the proper bathrooms…
Maybe that has something to do with the fact that they’re all blushing.
,.
,..
.
It’s…
Starting now? About Wednesday…
Right away.
I found one very quickly, but then I had to go over it to make sure there weren’t more, cos these puzzles are famous for that.
Now I want M&M’s!
Funny thing, that’s my desert of choice lately.
A couple handfuls before bed while treating the pets before bed.
I like the dark ones, but you don’t see them much.
Are they that dry?
Oops, too slow, it got away.
Paul and Ringo are posing for Linda, John is studiously looking away… and George is distracted.
,.,
DESCRIPTION
A little girl rides a tricycle in front of the Spot Lunch diner, a former streetcar.
The Spot Lunch was located at 640 Williamson Street and owned by John B. Hanson.
RECORD DETAILS
City:Madison
County:Dane
State:Wisconsin
Published in Wisconsin State Journal July 19, 1949.
The above information comes from HERE.
Funny, one picture today is taken in the city where I live… And this one is taken in the city where I lived in high school.
I don’t think this place was still there in my high school days… But I did eat in a hamburger place in San Francisco in the 70s that was an old train car… And IIRC, it had appeared in the Maltese Falcon.
Is that Corky’s diner from Gasoline Alley?
The street addresses sounded like Winnipeg.
A little research indicates they are.
We had them in Vancouver too.
And here in Santa Rosa… with only one location, but an almost identical ad in the paper.
Hokey live music, and pretty decent pizza, while it lasted.
I don’t recall them suggesting, however, that soft drinks were just for kids.
We had one in the Buffalo area too. My parents were embarrassed when I pulled the cheese off the pizza and refused to eat it.
If you think traffic in your city is bad don’t move to Bangladesh (shut off your sound).
I find it hard to believe those buses were ever new.
And STAY out of the crosswalk! !
Needed in NYC subways. 1/2 don’t pay fare. Same or worse on buses.
His presentation style is a bit annoying, but the information is interesting.
Thanks.
Last night it was a blank grey square for me, but now it’s working.
I love Hank’s style!
How does he manage so often to answer questions I didn’t realize I had?
He’s intensely curious, a quality I admire in people, and brings that enthusiasm to his videos…
It’s like he’s incapable of slowing down, not just cos of his own energy, but also trying to cram as much information as humanly possible into a video that’s not too long for us short-attention-span people.
I think he gets that cos he’s one too. Solve one question, race on to the next, before something gets away.
I love his tagline.
We hate not knowing!
Royal Navy ‘Barrack Hulks’.
Taken in September 1903, this photograph shows sailors of the Royal Navy leaving their ‘Barrack Hulks’ for their new stone built barracks on land at Queen Street, Portsmouth. About 4,000 men moved from the two old men of war, HMS Duke of Wellington & HMS Marlborough, both massive 131-gun triple decker ships of the line in their heyday.
The Duke of Wellington & Marlborough both became receiving ships in the 1890’s acting as floating barracks for sailors awaiting training or posting. Source: Royal Navy
Wonder what they did with them afterward.
4,000 men… I wonder how many bedrooms that is, in the Navy.
Sell one for a cheap hotel?
Very low end cruise ship?
Today they could use them to get a lot of homeless off the street, in cities that have docks.
Sigh…. probably just salvaged them, though.
Did a bit of digging, couldn’t find anything specific about their disposal, but the report from the Hampshire Telegraph (Below) sort of points to their fate.
It seems that there were five Barrack Hulks, Wellington and Marlborough being the largest.
.
Previously, five hulks – old ships no longer in service – provided accommodation for sailors in the dockyard. These were –
Builders began construction work for the new barracks in October 1899 keeping only elements of the old buildings (Previously a prison). The Admiralty opened the establishment on 30 September 1903, naming it HMS Victory (Renamed in 1974 to HMS Nelson).
The barracks housed 4000 officers and ratings from the old hulks.
On the day of moving the Hampshire Telegraph reported that ‘The Hulks’ were vacated with no ceremony or regret as they were unpleasant and miserable quarters.
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