Humphrey Bogart, and the hat he wore in the film.
His co-star was Katherine Hepburn… I was trying to convince myself that must be her sitting in the foreground, wearing black boots…
Then I realized it was Lauren Bacall… not in the cast, but his wife. She must have traveled with him to Africa. That might be John Huston in the middle.
I didn’t know the others, maybe all crew, but I could be missing an actor. Speaking of which, where is Ms. Hepburn?
I’ve read that it was a difficult, grueling shoot.
“They say we’re young and we don’t know
We won’t find out until we grow
Well, I don’t know if all that’s true
‘Cause you got me, and baby, I got you….🎶🎵”
Some individual elements of the picture look good/correct, but overall the composition is a mess.
The guy walking away on the left, and the building on the right (Excluding the writing on the signs) and the buildings in the distance are good, and form a good scene, but the cars and the fuel pump are waaaaaay off.
All this is true, I’m not advocating the use of complex algorithms (It’s not really ‘Artificial Intelligence’ and I wish they’d stop using that term for what these really are) to produce ‘Art’, but artists have copied each other since the first caveperson scratched a shape, or ‘painted’ their handprint on a wall. Everything is fake in one way or another, plus the way I see things is not the same way you, or anybody else, see things. I look at that picture, and I know it was produced by a computer algorithm, but I was just commenting on it the way someone else would comment on some 1930’s ‘Special Effects’ in the films of the time.
I build model railway equipment and layouts, and I can say without contradiction, that everything is fake on them.
I don’t mean this to be a rant, and I’m not getting at you Susan, but I’ll shut up now.
I’m with Susan on the subject of AI “art”. I bet you are proud of the research, craftsmanship, and imagination you put into your model railroad layouts. It would be a bit demeaning to have everyone oohing & aahing over a layout spit out by a computer. Art should be something to take pride in.
I’m on the fence with this. I get it that artists hate it, but AI in science and tech as been a game changer. I follow several science channels on YouTube and its opened up astro physics incredibly. They have a problem now with all the new specialized telescopes in that they are data rich. AI helps sort through the mountains of data collected.
It’s what Magritte meant….”Ceci n’est pas une pipe.”
But I’m not talking about that kind of fake. More like what I think P51Strega is talking about. The person who signed it didn’t make it.
And everything is copied… Your models copy real trains, your painting may copy techniques from another painting, and it certainly copies your vision, and possibly a real person or flower or tree.
…
But what I’m calling theft isn’t that. These programs don’t just copy paintings and turn out duplicates for other people. That would be illegal.
They copy and “learn” from the original artists… Colors, brush strokes, shading, style. Study dozens or thousands of portrayals of certain subjects. I think so far mostly from digital art and from photos and digital copies of “real” works, but I’m not sure.
…
You just tell it what you’d like to “paint”, and it replicates the techniques of other artists.
In some programs you could tell it to produce a Rembrandt of a motorcycle and it would do it, even though Rembrandt has never seen a motorcycle.
It’s not good at it yet. Just wait. One day even art historians won’t be able to tell who painted that bowl of apples. So far, just in digital copies. One day, maybe in real paint.
Other times you pick techniques from samples and menus…. All copied from real people, many alive and working, who don’t even know their work is being forged. You don’t know whose work you’re forging.
…
Legalized forgery is exactly what it is.
Even if another person copies one of your train models, he or she can’t copy your exact technique, the parts you used, your talent….
These programs can do that with digital paintings.
Lots are still around.
Some almost faded away, but have returned as hip “new” baby names.
I know several on this list, and they’re baby boomers or younger.
(I was going to say “not old ladies” but I realised maybe we are, depending on who you ask 😁.)
And of course, we have at least one who comments here on Cleo!
No Susan. It wasn’t common yet. And it’s uncommon again, in Gen Z and after. (sniffle)
Dorothea Jane and Bertelle Jeanette were my grandmothers.
But Dorothea named her daughter (my mother) Jane. And now that I think about it Dorothea Bertelle would have been pretty awful too.
My youngest daughter has found some evidence that the first Dorothea we know about (my great-great-grandmother) may have been Jewish. Her maiden name was and the town in Germany she was from had a large population of Jews back in the mid-1800s into WWII. Afterward, none. However, Dorothea 1 and spouse evidently converted after arriving in the States as no one had any idea regarding a non-Christian background.
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“Dude! Are you okay?_
“You are? Okay, then feed me!”
That looks like ‘Panko’, their human posts a picture of them every day to the Imgur site.
The first thing I recognized was the hat!
We must have been posting at the same time… but you beat me.
Hope you don’t mind my leaving mine up.
Not at all — you got yours right!
This has got to be ….
The African Queen.
Humphrey Bogart, and the hat he wore in the film.
His co-star was Katherine Hepburn… I was trying to convince myself that must be her sitting in the foreground, wearing black boots…
Then I realized it was Lauren Bacall… not in the cast, but his wife. She must have traveled with him to Africa. That might be John Huston in the middle.
I didn’t know the others, maybe all crew, but I could be missing an actor. Speaking of which, where is Ms. Hepburn?
I’ve read that it was a difficult, grueling shoot.
I’ll be back in a bit and I’ll try to look it up.
Same here! But I did get the lead and the film 🙂
..
Like!
The right number of fingers! Can’t be AI!
Stalker!
Did la chatte ever have a name?
Aha! “Penelope Pussycat!”
Nope!
But…. they might look good on a lady bunny😁
I would think more appropriate on a lady wolf ‘Furry’.
True… and I said kitty in another post.
Polar bear too… all having long sharp claws.
But they might also look good on some other animals
and Happy³ might like… um…. you know….
Not with six inch heels! 😀
So Jessica Rabbit isn’t your style?
“I don’t dabble in watercolors…” 😀
Kinky Boots!
What the hip kitty cosplayer will wear this season.
“We’ll always have Paris”
“They say we’re young and we don’t know
We won’t find out until we grow
Well, I don’t know if all that’s true
‘Cause you got me, and baby, I got you….🎶🎵”
Several of those are hard.
Yeah right.
(snort)
And end up on the street because we’ll be evicted if we don’t follow our landlords’ orders.
♥
Why am I envisioning Tuco, Angel Eyes and Blondie here? Fun memories.
I kept meaning to search for it and forgetting…. now I discovered that I didn’t need to.
The file name includes “Cemetery, Queens, New York, 1969”.
That skyline does kind of preclude a spaghetti western.
“Sign, sign, everywhere a sign…”
As long as you don’t care whether they make sense.
Some individual elements of the picture look good/correct, but overall the composition is a mess.
The guy walking away on the left, and the building on the right (Excluding the writing on the signs) and the buildings in the distance are good, and form a good scene, but the cars and the fuel pump are waaaaaay off.
Fake is fake…
And AI art is also theft, since it “learns” by copying real artists.
Even when (if?) it learns to do it better.
All this is true, I’m not advocating the use of complex algorithms (It’s not really ‘Artificial Intelligence’ and I wish they’d stop using that term for what these really are) to produce ‘Art’, but artists have copied each other since the first caveperson scratched a shape, or ‘painted’ their handprint on a wall. Everything is fake in one way or another, plus the way I see things is not the same way you, or anybody else, see things. I look at that picture, and I know it was produced by a computer algorithm, but I was just commenting on it the way someone else would comment on some 1930’s ‘Special Effects’ in the films of the time.
I build model railway equipment and layouts, and I can say without contradiction, that everything is fake on them.
I don’t mean this to be a rant, and I’m not getting at you Susan, but I’ll shut up now.
I’m with Susan on the subject of AI “art”. I bet you are proud of the research, craftsmanship, and imagination you put into your model railroad layouts. It would be a bit demeaning to have everyone oohing & aahing over a layout spit out by a computer. Art should be something to take pride in.
I’m on the fence with this. I get it that artists hate it, but AI in science and tech as been a game changer. I follow several science channels on YouTube and its opened up astro physics incredibly. They have a problem now with all the new specialized telescopes in that they are data rich. AI helps sort through the mountains of data collected.
I’m not against the use of AI as a learning and data mining tool.. . only as a substitute for artistry, in art, music and writing.
Yes, all art is “fake”…
It’s what Magritte meant….”Ceci n’est pas une pipe.”
But I’m not talking about that kind of fake. More like what I think P51Strega is talking about. The person who signed it didn’t make it.
And everything is copied… Your models copy real trains, your painting may copy techniques from another painting, and it certainly copies your vision, and possibly a real person or flower or tree.
…
But what I’m calling theft isn’t that. These programs don’t just copy paintings and turn out duplicates for other people. That would be illegal.
They copy and “learn” from the original artists… Colors, brush strokes, shading, style. Study dozens or thousands of portrayals of certain subjects. I think so far mostly from digital art and from photos and digital copies of “real” works, but I’m not sure.
…
You just tell it what you’d like to “paint”, and it replicates the techniques of other artists.
In some programs you could tell it to produce a Rembrandt of a motorcycle and it would do it, even though Rembrandt has never seen a motorcycle.
It’s not good at it yet. Just wait. One day even art historians won’t be able to tell who painted that bowl of apples. So far, just in digital copies. One day, maybe in real paint.
Other times you pick techniques from samples and menus…. All copied from real people, many alive and working, who don’t even know their work is being forged. You don’t know whose work you’re forging.
…
Legalized forgery is exactly what it is.
Even if another person copies one of your train models, he or she can’t copy your exact technique, the parts you used, your talent….
These programs can do that with digital paintings.
And BTW… no need to shut up
I welcome discussion of things I’m trying to learn about.
It’s a big world, and so much is new.
which bearhas a unique shirt?
Found it!
Same.
Cats are so liquid.
“I did that on purpose!
Of course I did!
Harrumph!”
.
Kinky!
And possibly stinky.
Aren’t they all?
We’re talking about cigarettes. right?
“Quintessa?”
It’s the quintessential ladies name.
You prefer Keziah? Xanthe? Zelina?
I’d have said Ottilie, but I actually.met one of those…. I didn’t know, cos she went by Tilly. One day I asked if it was short for something.
Probably the fifth born into the family.
Lots are still around.
Some almost faded away, but have returned as hip “new” baby names.
I know several on this list, and they’re baby boomers or younger.
(I was going to say “not old ladies” but I realised maybe we are, depending on who you ask 😁.)
And of course, we have at least one who comments here on Cleo!
No Susan. It wasn’t common yet. And it’s uncommon again, in Gen Z and after. (sniffle)
Do you mean me?
It was my grandmother’s and her grandmother’s first name.
My middle name is Jeanette after my other grandmother’s middle name.
Thank goodness my folks didn’t go the other way around – Bertelle Jane!
Yes… I meant you!
Does the other way around mean swapping which grandmother’s first and middle names you got?
…
Jewish people before my generation rarely had middle names.
If I got both grandma’s first names I’d be Frances Nell, or vice versa.
But actually, no… Frances wasn’t my grandmother at birth. I don’t know my paternal birth grandparents’ names.
…
I know a family that alternates the same two woman’s first names for every other generation, going back 150 years or so.
Dorothea Jane and Bertelle Jeanette were my grandmothers.
But Dorothea named her daughter (my mother) Jane. And now that I think about it Dorothea Bertelle would have been pretty awful too.
My youngest daughter has found some evidence that the first Dorothea we know about (my great-great-grandmother) may have been Jewish. Her maiden name was and the town in Germany she was from had a large population of Jews back in the mid-1800s into WWII. Afterward, none. However, Dorothea 1 and spouse evidently converted after arriving in the States as no one had any idea regarding a non-Christian background.
I don’t remember that one. LOL!
Bassoon, bazooka…. Big tubes, easy to mistake.
And similar words… easy for a helper to misread your list.
Good thing you figured it out.
Hey…. where’s everybody going?
Nope.
Reminds me of a scene from “Die Brücke” (“The Bridge”)…
One for Happy³, after all, it is a Bunday.
Designed by Tuuli and Kivi Sotamaa, made of 9330 egg shells.
Wow!
Eggshellent!
I want to know who ate all those eggs.
Couldn’t just have collected eggshells from a restaurant or some such. They had to be carefully broken, or maybe blown out.
I hope they didn’t waste 10,000 eggs!
That would make all the empty-handed egg shoppers at the grocery store cry!