Based on this and Mata Hari, it seems that women with smaller breasts were considered attractive at this time. I guess it was in the 40s that big ones came in vogue.
I know that flat chested-ness was fashionable from not long after WWI, all through the 1920’s,
But “fashionable” and “considered sexually alluring” aren’t always synonymous…. depending upon the era and the speaker.
In fact my mother’s older brothers, she told me in the 1960’s, had made her wear a “fashionable” tight bandeau when she went to work for them in 1931, at 17, hoping the the male customers would stop flirting with her.
….
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Anyhow, that picture of Mata Hari was taken no later than 1905, when larger breasts were more popular, though really, standards were much more varied than today.
In Victorian times, some men liked slender women, but some preferred them larger… the only shapes considered unattractive were very thin and quite fat.
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I also read that Mata Hari was self conscious about having small breasts and refused to bare them, even in intimate encounters…
but that picture looks pretty darn bare to me.
Maybe it wasn’t true, or maybe just having something covering the middle was enough, to her.
She died in 1917, before 1920’s fashions.
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By the later 1930’s, breasts were in again… partly due to fashion, and partly because some celebrated females were willing to flaunt theirs, as women became more free to act independent…
including smoking, drinking, and showing off their bodies.
Maybe men knew flat chested was fashionable… that didn’t mean they wouldn’t flock to see more well endowed stars.
…
By the time of Christian Dior’s New Look in the late 40’s, postwar designers were eager to get working women, who’d gotten used to earning money during WWII, to drop some of it on clothes…
That’s when the silhouette really changed, as they upended the fashion scene, pushing wider shoulders, longer skirts, more fabric…
so women wouldn’t want to wear their wartime dresses.
…
Suddenly women were supposed to be shapely, with wider hips and bigger breasts…
and people (especially men) preferred it, so it stuck.
…
Stylish got skinny again in the late 60’s… but I don’t think the flat look ever truly returned.
They bought bras in every era, from WWI till the late 1960’s, when some didn’t.
But not everybody, until probably the 40’s, because the older generations hadn’t had access to them, and it took a while for them to become expected and ubiquitous.
…..
1920’s bras were designed to make chests look flatter… so some women substituted a scarf or other plain band tied around the chest (ow!)
30’s bras were often flimsy.
But by the 50’s those highly engineered, reinforced, pointy contraptions were highly noticeable, and “everybody” wore one… except one of my great aunts, who refused.
By the 70’s they were optional again, and now who knows.
I have always enjoyed variety. I’ve found small chests very sexy, depending on the clothing. I think Mata Hari looked quite nice in that picture. But I’m open to large and middle size as well. I just want them real!
That machine must have been been rejiggered for the 70’s…
candy bars were probably 10 cents when it was new.
What’s odd is that the prices are all different… a complicated thing to set up or service, I’d think… But what do I know.
…
I owned an older candy machine than this one, back in the 70’s .. .(along with a non working but beautiful pinball machine and a fake “penny stamper”, which dispensed medallions it pretended to make out of your deposited penny.)
Stupidly large objects to collect, and too hard to get or keep working, and I eventually sold them…
….
The candy machine was from the 1930’s or early 40’s…. very nice looking, and I wanted to use it in my shop.
But it was made to dispense Cardinet candy bars, and some others didn’t fit.
The only Cardinet one still around was “U-No”, which nobody cared for, and they sold for a 25 cents, but the machine was set for 5 cents.
I’d have had to to sell a ton of them to cover the $100 or so to have it converted to taking quarters.
Humans and dogs will always do inexplicable things, in each other’s view.
Luckily, they find mutual aid and comfort in friendship with each other.
The dogs try to play our games and make human sounds; the people take the dogs out for walks and runs to please them…
even while we humans are horrified by canines rolling in rotten snails….
the dogs wonder why we humans put the turkey back in the fridge while they’re still hungry, and take all those nice smelly leftovers out to the street, to feed that horrible noisy truck on Thursday mornings.
…
Cats OTOH don’t think much about it.
They just yawn, and wait for the large, unbearably slow, dimwitted creatures to bring them proper food.
I came home the other day to an envelope from my landlord pushed under my door.
My initial dismay turned to relief whet it turned out to contain an early delivery of my lease renewal documents; they usually arrive in mid-June.
Anyway, my rent is going from $960.00 per month to $1,020.00 per month as of September 1, 2022 (a rise of 6.25% / $60.00).
Included in that is water and heat and my underground parking (which is an option I could drop) at $30.00 per month. I pay Telus, for phone and internet, and my electric bill on top of that, I don’t own a television, or I’d be paying cable too.
one bedroom 615 square feet (laid out really well; huge kitchen –full size appliances).
42 stairs from parkade to third floor — 28 stairs from first floor to third — 14 steps per floor.
If it was a square it would be 24 feet 10 inches on a side.
In my small city in Northern California, you’d pay at least double that…
About 4 years ago I helped a non-driving friend, on disability, look for a room in someone’s house or apartment… she’d been paying $500 a month on income of $800.
We couldn’t find anything … Almost no vacancies and the cheapest was advertised for $900, but the landlord said he’d decided to ask 1200.
Her sister came and looked with her… And finally called their other sister, and together they gave her enough so she could pay $1200 for a tiny studio apartment, which the landlords tried to raise to over $1400 the second year.
Luckily she doesn’t live there now… her name finally came up for a rare subsidized apartment, after more than 5 years on several waiting lists.
Nice that she “only” pays $450 but she’ll get kicked off if she accepts any money from her sisters.
…
That was all pre-pandemic… Rents are up now
…
An older one bedroom apartment here rents for over $2,000 a month, a shabby old house for at least $3,000.
Nobody can rent a house alone with a normal job… Mothers have to work full time, students at the junior college share rooms in apartments.
…
Yet some people decry the rise in minimum wage to $10 an hour, and wonder why we have so many homeless.
You can all hate me now. My taxes keep going up, so my mortgage+tax payment just went over $1000/month this year (it’s going up another 6% next year). For that sum I have a two-story, 4 bedroom house on two acres.
our mortgage plus taxes were $1775/month. that was for 4 bedroom house, 2 stories, 3200 sq ft, on 21 acres of pine forest. pure heaven! then we paid off the morgage 2 months ago!! WOOHOO!!!
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1931 film, at the Mayfair on the right.
7th Avenue, Times Square.
BTW Sidney Fox is a woman.
…
A few months later, Frankenstein premiered there…
“All seats 35¢!” … which was probably higher than usual.
…
I love Google.
Based on this and Mata Hari, it seems that women with smaller breasts were considered attractive at this time. I guess it was in the 40s that big ones came in vogue.
It would seem…
I know that flat chested-ness was fashionable from not long after WWI, all through the 1920’s,
But “fashionable” and “considered sexually alluring” aren’t always synonymous…. depending upon the era and the speaker.
In fact my mother’s older brothers, she told me in the 1960’s, had made her wear a “fashionable” tight bandeau when she went to work for them in 1931, at 17, hoping the the male customers would stop flirting with her.
….
.
Anyhow, that picture of Mata Hari was taken no later than 1905, when larger breasts were more popular, though really, standards were much more varied than today.
In Victorian times, some men liked slender women, but some preferred them larger… the only shapes considered unattractive were very thin and quite fat.
…
I also read that Mata Hari was self conscious about having small breasts and refused to bare them, even in intimate encounters…
but that picture looks pretty darn bare to me.
Maybe it wasn’t true, or maybe just having something covering the middle was enough, to her.
She died in 1917, before 1920’s fashions.
…
By the later 1930’s, breasts were in again… partly due to fashion, and partly because some celebrated females were willing to flaunt theirs, as women became more free to act independent…
including smoking, drinking, and showing off their bodies.
Maybe men knew flat chested was fashionable… that didn’t mean they wouldn’t flock to see more well endowed stars.
…
By the time of Christian Dior’s New Look in the late 40’s, postwar designers were eager to get working women, who’d gotten used to earning money during WWII, to drop some of it on clothes…
That’s when the silhouette really changed, as they upended the fashion scene, pushing wider shoulders, longer skirts, more fabric…
so women wouldn’t want to wear their wartime dresses.
…
Suddenly women were supposed to be shapely, with wider hips and bigger breasts…
and people (especially men) preferred it, so it stuck.
…
Stylish got skinny again in the late 60’s… but I don’t think the flat look ever truly returned.
Remember this advertisement?
think of the money they saved by not buying bras!
They bought bras in every era, from WWI till the late 1960’s, when some didn’t.
But not everybody, until probably the 40’s, because the older generations hadn’t had access to them, and it took a while for them to become expected and ubiquitous.
…..
1920’s bras were designed to make chests look flatter… so some women substituted a scarf or other plain band tied around the chest (ow!)
30’s bras were often flimsy.
But by the 50’s those highly engineered, reinforced, pointy contraptions were highly noticeable, and “everybody” wore one… except one of my great aunts, who refused.
By the 70’s they were optional again, and now who knows.
I have always enjoyed variety. I’ve found small chests very sexy, depending on the clothing. I think Mata Hari looked quite nice in that picture. But I’m open to large and middle size as well. I just want them real!
..and Google loves you
Gosh, Google… I’m… wow… I didn’t know.
(Blush)….. giggle…I wanted to post this yesterday but i had to transfer it to my laptop first.
It fits in with this as well as yesterday.
I notice “[woman] smoking” is conspicuously absent from the list…
,
I can’t like this enough. Lovely.
“Hey there, little buddy. You’ve got a cold, wet nose too, I see.”
I’m gonna guess that’s momma’s hoof tip at the left edge, and Frisky there is considered part of the family.
Good name for a basset… along with Bouncer, and Speedy.
OMG that looks like a lame deer! precious baby! what a great friend that basset is!
..
I notice the cat’s not paying attention to what’s going on, either.
That’s what I noticed too.
…cat.
Cat has business to take care of. This is just a weird picture all the way around.
This would make a great poster to hang on the bedroom wall of a young child. NOT!
“Why Are You Still Here? ” By: Boris Groh
A very brief article on BORIS GROH.
That machine must have been been rejiggered for the 70’s…
candy bars were probably 10 cents when it was new.
What’s odd is that the prices are all different… a complicated thing to set up or service, I’d think… But what do I know.
…
I owned an older candy machine than this one, back in the 70’s .. .(along with a non working but beautiful pinball machine and a fake “penny stamper”, which dispensed medallions it pretended to make out of your deposited penny.)
Stupidly large objects to collect, and too hard to get or keep working, and I eventually sold them…
….
The candy machine was from the 1930’s or early 40’s…. very nice looking, and I wanted to use it in my shop.
But it was made to dispense Cardinet candy bars, and some others didn’t fit.
The only Cardinet one still around was “U-No”, which nobody cared for, and they sold for a 25 cents, but the machine was set for 5 cents.
I’d have had to to sell a ton of them to cover the $100 or so to have it converted to taking quarters.
boy! you have lived an interesting life!
Arooooo!!
Nighthawks ~ please keep us posted about StelBel.
she’s still in bad shape
😿😿😿 Hoping for better news soon.
has she seen a doctor yet? pretty soon she’ll need the emergency room!
yes, please keep us posted!
Can someone contact her local FD and have a wellness check done?
So, as for “You don’t bring me Flowers”, was this actually performed as a duet, or was this duet created in studio?
Leroy Brown is bad, for sure.
wait a sec!
what about the Como-meister?
i love Perry Como!!! what a treat.
Asking a dog if it’s hungry is like asking a small child if they would like a cookie.
that Cleo. she brings up a sad commentary about modern times.
Humans and dogs will always do inexplicable things, in each other’s view.
Luckily, they find mutual aid and comfort in friendship with each other.
The dogs try to play our games and make human sounds; the people take the dogs out for walks and runs to please them…
even while we humans are horrified by canines rolling in rotten snails….
the dogs wonder why we humans put the turkey back in the fridge while they’re still hungry, and take all those nice smelly leftovers out to the street, to feed that horrible noisy truck on Thursday mornings.
…
Cats OTOH don’t think much about it.
They just yawn, and wait for the large, unbearably slow, dimwitted creatures to bring them proper food.
“No, not that. Something I like.
What? No, that was last week.”
Make that “five minutes ago”.
Cheese Soufflé
juice slushes
Me too Cleo…. Me too
Guess what day it is…. guess what day it is!
Grab a juice slush and have a great day. (((((HuGz!)))))
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Just in general:
I came home the other day to an envelope from my landlord pushed under my door.
My initial dismay turned to relief whet it turned out to contain an early delivery of my lease renewal documents; they usually arrive in mid-June.
Anyway, my rent is going from $960.00 per month to $1,020.00 per month as of September 1, 2022 (a rise of 6.25% / $60.00).
Included in that is water and heat and my underground parking (which is an option I could drop) at $30.00 per month. I pay Telus, for phone and internet, and my electric bill on top of that, I don’t own a television, or I’d be paying cable too.
one bedroom 615 square feet (laid out really well; huge kitchen –full size appliances).
42 stairs from parkade to third floor — 28 stairs from first floor to third — 14 steps per floor.
If it was a square it would be 24 feet 10 inches on a side.
Actually, that’s not bad. I’ve heard of some rents being doubled. That’s a lot of stairs ~ good exercise.
I have a two-story duplex where the upstairs tenants are perfect – they are mountain climbers.
I’m glad i have a mortgage.
In my small city in Northern California, you’d pay at least double that…
About 4 years ago I helped a non-driving friend, on disability, look for a room in someone’s house or apartment… she’d been paying $500 a month on income of $800.
We couldn’t find anything … Almost no vacancies and the cheapest was advertised for $900, but the landlord said he’d decided to ask 1200.
Her sister came and looked with her… And finally called their other sister, and together they gave her enough so she could pay $1200 for a tiny studio apartment, which the landlords tried to raise to over $1400 the second year.
Luckily she doesn’t live there now… her name finally came up for a rare subsidized apartment, after more than 5 years on several waiting lists.
Nice that she “only” pays $450 but she’ll get kicked off if she accepts any money from her sisters.
…
That was all pre-pandemic… Rents are up now
…
An older one bedroom apartment here rents for over $2,000 a month, a shabby old house for at least $3,000.
Nobody can rent a house alone with a normal job… Mothers have to work full time, students at the junior college share rooms in apartments.
…
Yet some people decry the rise in minimum wage to $10 an hour, and wonder why we have so many homeless.
You can all hate me now. My taxes keep going up, so my mortgage+tax payment just went over $1000/month this year (it’s going up another 6% next year). For that sum I have a two-story, 4 bedroom house on two acres.
Congrats, P51 !!!
our mortgage plus taxes were $1775/month. that was for 4 bedroom house, 2 stories, 3200 sq ft, on 21 acres of pine forest. pure heaven! then we paid off the morgage 2 months ago!! WOOHOO!!!
good thing you’re independently wealthy!