September 11, 2026

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JP Steve
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Suspenders?

Arfside
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20 days ago

According to Google Lens:
This image appears to show a street vendor selling suspenders in New York City, captured in 1896 by pioneering photographer Alice Austen. 

  • The photograph is part of Austen’s famous “Street Types” series documenting working-class New Yorkers.
  • The scene is set near the New York seaport around Wall and Front Street.
  • The vendor holds an armful of suspenders (also known as braces) with a sailing ship visible in the background.
SusanSunshine
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Reply to  Arfside
20 days ago

Yep.

JP Steve
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Reply to  Arfside
20 days ago

Actually at least three sailing ships visible in the distance…

More_Cats_Than_Sense
Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Known here in the UK as ‘Braces’ (Hence the saying “Belt and Braces” when taking extra precautions). Suspenders hold up stockings…… 😉

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  More_Cats_Than_Sense
20 days ago

And here, garters hold up sleeves or stockings, as they have for centuries on both sides of the pond.

But in the UK, it only means in the original usage… a strip of cloth, or nowadays, a ring of elastic, worn around the arm or leg. I believe you still have that word for things like sleeve garters and wedding garters, and certainly the Order of the Garter.

In the US, we kept that word, garter, for the kind that dangle fasteners, as well, whereas in the UK, those became suspenders. So we have a garter belt, you have a suspender belt… Well, not you, personally, I presume, much as I hate to presume.

It’s funny that we say suspenders for devices with the same sort of fasteners, but for pants, while you drop that name to call them braces… or maybe that came first. In which case, why not stocking braces? We certainly never say pants garters!

I’ve never heard the expression “belt and braces”. I can’t even think of what we do say!

JP Steve
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Reply to  SusanSunshine
20 days ago

“Belt and suspenders.”

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  JP Steve
19 days ago

I’ve never heard that either!

JP Steve
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

I hope somebody remembered the wind-up key so we can get back home!

More_Cats_Than_Sense
Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Reminds me of a African flag for some reason.

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20 days ago
SusanSunshine
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Reply to  baconboycamper
20 days ago

Same colors, wrong order.
Good guess!

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  More_Cats_Than_Sense
20 days ago

You’re right! It’s very like an African flag, but not quite any I saw.

Red, yellow(or gold) and green are the Pan African colors, used for about half (I think) of the flags on that continent.

Because they’re the colors of the Ethiopian flag, they’re also the colors of Rastafarianism, and associated with reggae.

That’s what supposedly influenced Boy George to use the line Red Green and Gold in Karma Chameleon to describe the perfect colors of his dreams, for which he took some flak.

Lithuania is an outlier, using them, I think, coincidentally.

But order is important in a flag.

I just looked, and none of them have then in the order yellow, red and green.

baconboycamper
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Reply to  SusanSunshine
19 days ago

Correct, none in this exact same order, many others in various orders…

Voxx
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

spoiler
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Arfside
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

I can normally see these things, but all I see is a piece of carpet.

mr_sherman
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Reply to  Arfside
20 days ago

Same here.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  Arfside
20 days ago

Me too.

JP Steve
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Reply to  Arfside
20 days ago

“Well, I was going too say I saw a ducky and a horsie but I changed my mind”

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  JP Steve
19 days ago

Okay Linus…

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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Red

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  Liverlips McCracken
20 days ago

Um… Yeah… the number red.

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Reply to  SusanSunshine
20 days ago

The number red is 2. The number green is 7. The number 5 is blue.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  crazeekatlady
20 days ago

Um… I’ve always thought everybody’s synesthesia was different.

I’m curious… is this your personal pattern, or are you saying there’s a set code?

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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

I kind of maybe almost

can convince myself I see…
A three in the middle.

But I’m not sure, because, while it’s vaguely a bit darker than its surroundings, there’s another similar marking, to the right and lower, that isn’t a recognizable symbol (AFAIK), so I’m not sure either is a number.

More_Cats_Than_Sense
Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

It’s on the diagonal (Top left to bottom right), the numbers are not very plain/regular shapes.

But I see
0985

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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

I see a bird.

Voxx
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Does anybody have the actual answer ?

happyhappyhappy
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Reply to  Voxx
20 days ago

I vote for carpet.

DancingBuffalo
Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Okay – I dropped this into Photoshop Elements. The answer is 0985.

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More_Cats_Than_Sense
Reply to  DancingBuffalo
20 days ago

I agree.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  DancingBuffalo
20 days ago

On yours I can make that out… dunno whether I would have if you’d put your answer in a spoiler box, but I read it first.

Looking back at the original posted, I can’t see it.

What did Elements do to it? I’m guessing it did something or you would have just given the answer, and not posted the image again.

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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

This one is plotting something.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  Liverlips McCracken
20 days ago

World domination, of course.
Like all cats.

crazeekatlady
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Move over. I’m coming in!

Arfside
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Looks like somebody is poppin in.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Sometimes when you search an image, you find out nothing.
Other times you find out too much. Like in this case, where I found more information than what fits a description of one picture.

Like… three titles, and two different media. Same artist though.

So this is either British artist, Derrick Fielding’s
“There She Goes”, 2023….. acrylic on canvas

Or… his oil on canvas “ The Night, or What Dreams Are Made Of”.

Each title and description was given on several websites… the third title was only mentioned once, so it’s probably incorrect.

Meanwhile, I thought it was going to turn out to be an illustration for the book Steve is alluding to… but no. He apparently just stole her and put her in his painting.

JP Steve
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Reply to  SusanSunshine
20 days ago

Steve? Who’s Steve?

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  JP Steve
20 days ago

I thought you wanted to be Steve and not JP?

DancingBuffalo
Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

Yeah, that’s a keeper. A photo for the ages.

Arfside
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

My take on it
2432902008176640000, which is n!

Arfside
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Reply to  Arfside
19 days ago

I sure got it wrong. I treated it as multiplicative instead of additive.

mr_sherman
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

My take:
19 (The first person shales the hand of 19 other people.)
Plus 18 (The second person shakes the hand of the other 19 people after shaking the hand of the first) Plus 17, etc. until the next to last person shakes the hand of the last person. That would make 19 + 18 + 17 + 16 + 15 … down to 3 + 2.

That would make it 189.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  mr_sherman
20 days ago

Yes, I started the same, but…

with two little tweaks…
The first doesn’t matter, it just semantics…. But for clarity… you correctly put “plus 18”, so I’m pretty sure you mean the 2nd person shakes the hand of the other 18 people …

However, the other thing is….. the 2nd to last person still has to shake the hand of the last person, so there’s +1 at the end, making 190.

I wanted to do it algebraically, but I couldn’t remember the formula, so I googled “combination of 20 taken 2 at a time”, which I think describes this situation, though I’m very rusty… and guess what… It’s 190.

So I’m thinking that’s right, until somebody more mathematical says otherwise.

mr_sherman
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Reply to  SusanSunshine
20 days ago

Why my answer:
When the second to last person shakes the last person’s hand, that leaves the last person with no ones hand to shake but themselves. That’s why I have 189 instead of 190.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  mr_sherman
20 days ago

Yes, but

I think…
you’re still leaving that one out. You’re ending with the third to last shaking the last two, when there still one more to go.
And 190 turns up in the mathematical solutions, so I think it’s correct.

mr_sherman
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Reply to  SusanSunshine
20 days ago

You’re correct:
#20 shakes 19 hands = 19
#19 shakes 18 hands = 37
#18 shakes 17 hands = 54
#17 shakes 16 hands = 70
#16 shakes 15 hands = 85
#15 shakes 14 hand = 99
#14 shakes 13 hands = 112
#13 shakes 12 hands = 124
#12 shakes 11 hands = 135
#11 shakes 10 hands = 145
#10 shakes 9 hands = 154
#9 shakes 8 hands = 162
#8 shakes 7 hands = 169
#7 shakes 6 hands = 175
#6 shakes 5 hands = 180
#5 shakes 4 hands = 184
#4 shakes 3 hands = 187
#3 shakes 2 hands = 189
#2 shakes one hand = 190

happyhappyhappy
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

20 people shake 19 peoples hands.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  happyhappyhappy
20 days ago

Yes, but there aren’t 19 handshakes all 20 times.

Don’t forget it says only once… So when Tom shakes Dick’s hand, it no longer counts when Dick shakes Tom’s hand… and after they both shake Harry’s hand, he can’t count shaking either of theirs.

Eliminating the duplicates is what complicates the math.

I used to know formulas for this stuff, but when you don’t use something for decades, it (quite unfairly, if you ask me) falls right out of your brain.

Tigressy
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

The answer:
To determine the number of unique handshakes when 20 people shake hands with each other exactly once, we can use the combination formula for selecting 2 people out of 20. This is because a handshake involves 2 people, and the order doesn’t matter (i.e., Person A shaking hands with Person B is the same as Person B shaking hands with Person A).
The formula for combinations is:
Number of handshakes=(2n​)=2n×(n−1)​
Where:

  • n=20 (the number of people in the room).

Plugging in the values:
Number of handshakes=220×19​=190
So, there are 190 unique handshakes in total.

DancingBuffalo
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20 days ago

And they all said we’d never need algebra after high school…

Tigressy
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Reply to  DancingBuffalo
20 days ago

Personally, I do prefer that question with “toasting to”.

mr_sherman
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Reply to  Tigressy
20 days ago

I’m still sticking with my answer.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  mr_sherman
20 days ago

I just replied to you about that.

mr_sherman
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Reply to  SusanSunshine
20 days ago

And I replied to you.
🙂

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  Tigressy
20 days ago

Yeah, thanks. .. That’s the formula I was trying to remember.

I had given that answer last night, in my reply to Mr. Sherman, but I said I couldn’t remember the formula for combinations.

Instead of googling it, I googled the answer, which matched my answer, so I figured it was ok.

JP Steve
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

My take on it

Spoiler
— one guy’s got dirty fingernails!

Arfside
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Reply to  nighthawks
20 days ago

English actor Rex Harrison holding his basset hound named Homer.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  Arfside
20 days ago

The photo was taken when Homer was visiting him on the set of My Fair Lady, in 1963, which he did a lot because they were inseparable.

The Telegraph reported in 1998 that Mr Harrison confessed in an interview (hopefully a bit tongue in cheek) that he preferred Homer to any of his six wives, despite the dog’s reputation for being a little flatulent.

DancingBuffalo
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20 days ago

Flatulence in bassets is actually rather common. Many of mine have shared that “feature”.

Tigressy
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20 days ago

Tigressy
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20 days ago

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Reply to  Tigressy
20 days ago

In a Perfect World…
Yes. Perhaps.
A Solemn Day.
Other than nighthawks way up at the top, you are the only one, up to this time of time.
Even Canadians, too, will never forget.
Deep Peace, Tigressy.

Tigressy
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Reply to  baconboycamper
20 days ago

I exactly remember where I was and with whom back then.
And our feelings. And wishes…

baconboycamper
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Reply to  Tigressy
20 days ago

Me too.
Even up here in Canada, we picked up our daughter from her High School at the end of classes and tried to explain, to a 15 year old, on how this world would be changing. Innocence lost.

Tigressy
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Reply to  baconboycamper
20 days ago

We were with a best friend of ours and his very young son.
My husband received the news on IRC…

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Reply to  Tigressy
20 days ago

I’m in the flightpath for LAX (but the planes are very high). I remember being so happy / relieved after a week when we saw the first planes being allowed to fly overhead again. I still look at the planes overhead and remember that day.

JP Steve
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20 days ago

I’m on the flight path to YVR. For months I panicked every time I saw a airliner overhead…

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19 days ago

I’m on one of the landing/take off routes for Norfolk International Airport. I remember the quiet and hating it. I’m so used to the occasional plane and the traffic on the nearby interstate, it’s just calming background oise.

SusanSunshine
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20 days ago

Yay! Today was supposed to be the last day of this heat wave we’ve been having…  only 90°.

We’ve had more than a week of 95 or more, this week, hitting 100 or 101 Monday through Wednesday.

At least we don’t have the punishing humidity you get in other places. Since I’m without air conditioning, like most of us here, I don’t think I’d make it at 101° and humid. I am not good at hot weather.

Dropping back into the relatively safe 80s.

I may… that’s may…. turn back into a person soon. I’ll let you know.

Last edited 20 days ago by SusanSunshine
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20 days ago

Best of luck.

SusanSunshine
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Reply to  Liverlips McCracken
20 days ago

Thanks!

Today won’t even hit 80′!

I think I made it… though maybe not all the way back to human. You guys will have to decide that part:)

Sorry to whine… I was just at the end of my (melting) rope.

More_Cats_Than_Sense
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20 days ago

And these two are:
Paul Newman and Sophia Loren in 1965

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20 days ago

Chestnut-crowned Antpitta.

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20 days ago

What a little cutie… he looks teeny.

Maybe he’s not, but i guess i just can’t imagine a big round ball on skinny sticks.

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20 days ago

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